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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 92 05:00:28
From: Space Digest maintainer <digests@isu.isunet.edu>
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Subject: Space Digest V15 #488
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Space Digest Thu, 3 Dec 92 Volume 15 : Issue 488
Today's Topics:
Detonavion vs Deflagration (was Re: Shuttle replacement)
Foreign Soil
NASA has 5 hand grenades still on the moon from Apollo missions
Shuttle replacement (5 msgs)
Space probe to pass Earth
spherical space structure
STS-48 and "SDI": Oberg vs. Hoagland
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 92 12:39:25 +0100
From: "John D. Boggs" <erato!jdb>
Subject: Detonavion vs Deflagration (was Re: Shuttle replacement)
Newsgroups: sci.space
From article <1992Nov30.232333.1@stsci.edu>, by gawne@stsci.edu ():
> At least in the language of supernovae research, a detonation involves
> a flame front that propogates supersonically, whereas a deflagration has
> a subsonically propogating flame front. In the case of supernovae you
> get a VERY big ball of fire in the sky.
Hmm. And just how fast *does* sound move in space?
-John D. Boggs uunet!erato!jdb
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Date: 2 Dec 92 13:43:45 GMT
From: FRANK NEY <tnc!m0102>
Subject: Foreign Soil
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,sci.space
This is also one of the reasons why private space
exploration/exploitation will never get off the ground, at least those
attempts made by US citizens.
The Commercial Space Launch Act requires $3 billion in Liability
Insurance for a launch. I called the NY office of Lloyd's once to
inquire on the rates for such a policy and was informed that they
would not write one.
Launching outside the US would not work, since the Foreign Practices
Act enforces the Commercial Space Launch Act wherever a US citizen
goes....even into outer space.
Your only alternative is to renounce US citizenship.
Frank Ney N4ZHG EMT-A NRA ILA GOA CCRTKBA "M-O-U-S-E"
Commandant and Acting President, Northern Virginia Free Militia
Send e-mail for an application and more information
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Date: 2 Dec 92 13:13:47 GMT
From: "H.S. Doyle" <H.S.Doyle@newcastle.ac.uk>
Subject: NASA has 5 hand grenades still on the moon from Apollo missions
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <ByM1tJ.MB.1@cs.cmu.edu>, pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu ("Phil G. Fraering") writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec1.213904.2097@sunspot.noao.edu>,
>bbbehr@sunspot.noao.edu (Bradford B. Behr) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec1.152624.3587@pixel.kodak.com>
>dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) wrote:
>>>Wasn't there an Urban Legend to the effect that Armstrong & Co. were
>>>issued .45 automatics just in case?
>>
>> Just in case of bug-eyed moon monsters or giant mutant space goats or
>> secret Nazi bases? Not likely. It is quite possible that they had
>> sidearms in the command module in case they splashed/crashed down in
>> the wilderness somewhere and had to hunt for food or defend themselves
>> from ravenous but terran beasts.
>
>Ordinary firearms wouldn't work in a vacuum anyhow.
>The gunpowder couldn't burn. The same might be true at high
>altitudes on the Earth's surface, as I've heard that in a
>particular South American city (I think it was La Paz, Bolivia),
>there's not enough oxygen in the air for them to really require
>a fire department.
Gun propellant powder doesn't need oxygen to burn, it will explode quite happily
in a vacuum. The chemical reaction isn't an oxygen-carbon one. I thought this
would have been obvious due to the fact that the powder in a cartridge goes off
when the bullet is still in the cartridge case and thus blocking it from the air!
Harry.
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Date: 2 Dec 92 01:58:05 GMT
From: Rich Kolker <rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com>
Subject: Shuttle replacement
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle,sci.space
In article <70145@cup.portal.com> BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn) writes:
>>By the way Henry, I found out some interesting stuff there are three versions
>>of the Saturn V first Stage. These are as follows
>>
>>S1C-T Test Stage for Manufacturing and Ground firings
>> This is the one at the Alabama Space & Rocket Center
>>
>>S1C-D Dynamic Test model. Was later scrapped at the end of
>> the program.
>>
>>S1C-1,2,3.... Flight Saturn S1 C stages.
>>
>
>I don't know the true designations, but I think that the S1C-D that you said
>was scrapped is presently on display near the VAB at Kennedy Space Center.
>It was part of the AS-500F vehicle used to test the Kennedy facilities in
>1966. At least, I'm pretty sure that AS-500F is on display at the Cape.
>
>-Brian
I checked this out a while back. The Apollo 19 Saturn is at KSC, the Apollo
20 Saturn is at JSC (I could check out the actual SV designations in Starges
to Saturn, but you get the idea). The Saturn V at MSFC is the Engineering
test model, not a flight article.
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rich kolker rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com
It's been a long, long time
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Date: 2 Dec 92 02:14:19 GMT
From: Rich Kolker <rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com>
Subject: Shuttle replacement
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <1992Nov27.141645.24129@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <ByCEBw.4MF@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov26.160614.19313@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>>>A bit less zenophobia please! what the hell do you think an airliner is?
>>>
>>>Something with *wings* on it.
>>
>>Just think of DC-1 as a high-performance helicopter.
>
>Even they have rotary wings. The reason I keep harping on this is that
>landing *on* a ball of fire is too damn near landing *in* a ball of fire
>for my tastes. I've been in a helicopter with in flight power failure;
>I've been PIC of a fixed wing aircraft with in flight power failure; and
>I walked away from both. I don't see any margin for error in setting down
>on rocket exhaust. Either everything works perfectly and you survive, or
>something fails and you topple over and burn, or if you're higher you
>smack in hard and burn.
>
So long as your engines fire through the CG, the engine redundancy of
DC-1 as currently planned (and understand the whole idea of X and Y is
to change that paper design based on flight testing...like they do with
aircraft) will not easily allow "topple over and burn" any more than a
properly trained pilot will "spin out and burn" in a twin with an engine
out.
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rich kolker rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com
It's been a long, long time
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Date: 2 Dec 92 02:47:26 GMT
From: Rich Kolker <rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com>
Subject: Shuttle replacement
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <70618@cup.portal.com> BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn) writes:
>>Please dont confuse the re-entry phase from the landing hover phase.
>>certainly a phine guidance error at re-entry results in hundreds of
>>miles in terminal descent. but shuttle has that same problem and you
>>dont seem to scream about that. the key point that DC-1 will have
>>over STS is that when they punch out of the blackout zone they can
>>get a guidance update from GPS,LORAN, Ground radar or visual and if they
>>are significantly off course they cna look for a convenient emergency
>>descent location and make a powered landing.
>
> The Space Shuttle no longer has a 'blackout zone'. The TDRS satellites
> eliminated it. I don't know about the DC, but it probably will avoid
> a blackout zone, too, if Mc-D leases TDRS space from NASA or something.
>
The space shuttle does too have a blackout zone. The Zone of Exclusion is
over the Indian Ocean, and the exact size depends on shuttle altitude.
In addition, the shuttle can be out of radio touch due to attitude
requirements that block the Ku Band antenna. There is a blackout due to
atmospheric ionization during reentry. Finally, during the entry after
that point, there have been certain high inclination flights that,
due to the approach path, have been out of comm range during much
of the run across the US into KSC.
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rich kolker rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com
It's been a long, long time
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1992 13:58:21 GMT
From: "Allen W. Sherzer" <aws@iti.org>
Subject: Shuttle replacement
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <qg#2_bl@rpi.edu> strider@clotho.acm.rpi.edu (Greg Moore) writes:
>>Amounts to the same thing. Most of the Shuttle flights which have ever been
>>scheduled have been cancled. That's not reliable service.
> This comment bears a little explaining I think. What exactly has
>beed cancled that has actually been scheduled...
Check out the table in the Nov. 12, 1990 issue of Avation Week on Page 27.
In ten years of operation this is the first year where Shuttle has gotten
even close to projected flight rates.
>However, if something DOES go wrong, or for some reason you want a
>person on sight, then the shuttle wins.
Maybe even not then. It depends on the cost of failure.
>For something like Hubble, or
>some other unique satellites, I'd prefer the Shuttle.
One reason Hubble is unique is that Shuttle eats almost a third of
NASA's budget. I hope you consider this when measuring Shuttle utility.
If YOU where paying for Hubble, which would you pick?
> Allen, they haven't made a profit in 6 years (since Challanger).
Largely because they are forced to compete with government subsidized
competition.
The point still remains that the commercial providers are REDUCING the
cost of access to space; Shuttle increases it. Commercial launchers spend
investors money, Shuttle spends MY money. Given a choice between a cheaper
option which costs me nothing and a more expensive one I need to pay for
I would pick the former. How about you?
>>But what would have happened if we developed a commercial based infrastructure
>>back in 1980? Much furthur I'll bet.
>Let's argue today, not the past.
One thing we need to do to make progress is understand the mistakes of
the past and then have the courage to correct them.
Allen
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| Allen W. Sherzer | "A great man is one who does nothing but leaves |
| aws@iti.org | nothing undone" |
+----------------------143 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX----------------------+
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1992 11:55:26 GMT
From: Gary Coffman <ke4zv!gary>
Subject: Shuttle replacement
Newsgroups: sci.space
Nonflamable materials only in this post. :-)
In article <1992Nov30.011822.7870@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
>In article <STEINLY.92Nov29150524@topaz.ucsc.edu> steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
>
>>Now here's a question: How is the DC to be refuelled and reloaded
>>between missions? That is, it won't necessarily land on a pad and it
>>has no wheels (?) so how will the ground crew handle it?
>
>I believe current plans are to put weels on it after it lands and tow it
>to a hanger or the launcher. Empty weight is only 80K pounds so this isn't
>hard.
What's the height/width of the projected DC? What I'm asking is how
stable is this thing on just wheels? Would a bracing structure be
helpful or required when moving it over ordinary rough concrete surfaces?
>>Does it need a gantry to load heavy payloads or will a
>>mobile crane be used?
>
>A mobile crane will be fine. Payload are put into a standard pallet and the
>pallet has standard interfaces with the vehicle. This means that the complex
>integration tasks can be done offline and payload/vehicle integration will
>take a few hours at most. Max payload weight is 20K pounds so a mobile crane
>is no problem.
Are the payload/pallet integration costs included in DC flight costs,
or are they offloaded onto the customer? Standards help, of course,
but payload integration costs are a significant part of spaceflight
costs. Also, I'd expect a mobile gantry platform would be better than
having a ten ton pallet swaying on the end of a crane cable. Costs
for a ten ton mobile gantry platform shouldn't be that high, just
a glorified forklift.
Gary
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1992 01:04:18 GMT
From: "Carlos G. Niederstrasser" <phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn@CRABAPPLE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU>
Subject: Space probe to pass Earth
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <galileoU2D1505pe@clarinet.com> clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI) writes:
>
> PASADENA, Calif. (UPI) -- NASA's Galileo space probe will zip past
> Earth and the moon next week to use the planet's gravity to fling it
> toward an exploration of Jupiter beginning in three years, officials
> said Tuesday.
> ``We are now just one week from the Earth-II flyby, the gravity
> assist, that will send Galileo to Jupiter,'' said project manager
> William O'Neil during a briefing at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
> Galileo will pass within about 68,000 miles of Earth's moon at 10:58
> p.m. EST Dec. 7 and pass within 190 miles of Earth at 10:09 a.m. EST the
> next day, he said. The pass will increase the probe's speed by 8,280
> mph, whipping it out toward the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter
> at about 87,190 mph.
> Scientists plan to use the pass by the atomic-powered, $1.4 billion
> spacecraft to calibrate the probe's instruments by using the various
> sensors and cameras to study and photograph the Earth and moon.
190 miles ?!?! Isn't that even closer than the normal shuttle orbit? Are they
missing a few zeroes? I mean, at 190 miles I would expect air resistance
(considering the high speed) to be quite detrimental.
And on a 'whine' note, once again the press trying to scare ignorant fools by
stating that the spacecraft is atomic-powered. Was that reference really
necessary in the context of the article? I think not!
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| Carlos G. Niederstrasser | It is difficult to say what |
| Princeton Planetary Society | is impossible; for the dream of |
| | yesterday, is the hope of today |
| | and the reality of tomorrow |
| carlosn@phoenix.princeton.edu |---------------------------------|
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| Princeton Planetary Society | is impossible; for the dream of |
| | yesterday, is the hope of today |
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Date: 2 Dec 92 04:12:38 EST
From: andrew busigin <andrew.busigin@canrem.com>
Subject: spherical space structure
Newsgroups: sci.space
DW> But spherical shapes for space stations aren't as efficient as you
might
DW> hope. The thickness of the material that would be required for
DW> the wall of a sphere containing a 20 kPa (or whatever) pressure
DW> increases with the diameter of the sphere. If I remember aright,
DW> directly proportional to the diameter, so a sphere 100 metres in
DW> diameter, say, would need walls twice as thick as a 50m sphere.
DW> Thus the mass of material needed for the walls would be directly
DW> proportional to the volume of the sphere, rather than increasing
DW> more slowly as you might expect and hope.
DW>
DW> Oh well...
Perhaps you should re-examine your assumptions on efficiency, David.
There is no geometric shape with
1 - a more efficient ratio of volume to surface area, or
skin
mass, in the case of a hollow spheriod.
2 - a greater strength to mass ratio, for a container under
pressure.
3 - a simpler method of erection than inflation.
(Please Mr. Lurker, restrain yourself! )
The fact is that space station freedom is based on technology anchored
in lego blocks and mechano sets. Nature tends to use sacs to contain
pressure. Hmmm...
Examination of the technologies deemed critical for Freedom, revealed
that they felt that structural members needed to be extruded on site.
This manufacturing technique, together with the spelunkers' dream castle
architechture, creates a formidable amount of construction effort in open
space.
Spheres, on the other hand, might be manufactured on earth, a number at
a time, as large as football fields, and shuttled up. Reinforcing and
insulative materials would ride up compressed, ie - honeycomb, resins,
foils, and applied to a surface from inside, and perhaps outside.
As for pressure, the spheroid would initially probably be fabric based,
perhaps related to tevelec. The thickness of the skin could be built up
in the same fashion that a Harrier Jet's Wing is constructed, from
advanced composites.
As for the pressures involved, the spheroid could be initially inflated
to 1psi, rigidized, the skin built up, and gradually pressurized to
10psi as another post'r suggested is required for the N2 O2 mix now thought
proper by NASA.
One final, very important note. Your reaction, "Oh Well...", is a
problem. Ceative thought must be encouraged especially in the science and
space conferences. Good science demands that problems be exposed to the
light of reality. But good scientists, and engineers can usually find their
way around problems. We have to get the youngsters out there thinking!
Between all the people in these conferences, we ARE capable of BUILDING
on new ideas, not just critiqueing them.
BTW, I do appreciate your post.
Best Regards,
------------------------------
Date: 2 Dec 92 06:12:12 GMT
From: Robert Sheaffer <sheaffer@netcom.com>
Subject: STS-48 and "SDI": Oberg vs. Hoagland
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,sci.astro,sci.space,alt.alien.visitors
I am posting the following file that I received from James Oberg, a
well-known writer on the space program. He is discussing the same
videotaped footage from NASA's STS-48 mission that has been endlessly
showen as a supposed "UFO." Richard Hoagland, a major promoter of the
"Face On Mars," claims that NASA cameras accidentally caught a secret
"star wars test". Here is Oberg's rebuttal.
James Oberg, Rt 2 Box 350, Dickinson, TX 77539
Re: Did STS-48 view a "Star Wars" test?
The STS-48 mission was the 43rd shuttle launch, the 13th flight
of OV-103 Discovery, with the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite
(UARS). The crew was John Creighton, Ken Reightler, Jim Buchli,
Mark Brown, and Sam Gemar. It was launched from KSC Pad A at
2311GMT Sep 12, 1991 (twilight),landed at EAFB on Sep 18, 0738GMT
(night), duration 5d08h27m. The orbit was inclined 57 degrees to
the equator at an altitude of about 570 km, second only to the
616 km altitude of the Hubble deploy mission a year and a half
earlier. Due to radar experiments with the deployed UARS
satellite, I was present in the control room for two planning
shifts (my job was as "Guidance and Procedures Officer" for
actions related to orbital rendezvous, such as the planned
checkout of the radar which had shown performance anomalies on
several earlier missions).
I have reviewed the videotape by Richard Hoagland alleging that
the notorious STS-48 videotape shows a "Star Wars" weapons test
against a target drone with astounding propulsion. In my
judgment, the facts, analysis, and conclusions presented by Mr.
Hoagland are entirely wrong.
Is the object really very far away? Hoagland's argument depends
on proving that the object is at or beyond the physical horizon,
"1713 miles away". Proving this depends on optical analysis of
the image and of its motion. All of Hoagland's analysis is
invalid.
First, Hoagland alleges that the videotape shows the object
suddenly appearing at the edge of the Earth, as if it had popped
up from behind the horizon. But a more cautious viewing of the
tape shows this is not accurate.
The object does NOT rise from "behind the horizon". It appears
(arguably, it becomes sunlit) at a point below the physical
horizon, just slightly below, to be sure, but measurably below
the edge of the Earth (the "limb").
It has been suggested (Dipietro) that the object's sudden
appearance is due to sunrise. This is plausible. I suggest a
variation on this, that the object became visible when it moved
up out of the shuttle's shadow just after sunrise. Since the
video was taken near sunrise, the shuttle's shadow was pointing
back nearly parallel to Earth's horizon, and the ground was still
dark (bright ground reflection later lights up debris even if
they are in the shuttle's sun shadow). This would require that it
be close to the shuttle. The proximity to the horizon line would
be coincidental.
Note that the bright light in upper left is some sort of camera
anomaly and is not an electronic horizon marker as alleged by
Hoagland. There is no such thing as an electronic horizon marker.
Is the object behind the atmosphere? Hoagland argues that
analysis of the imagery shows the object is physically behind the
atmosphere. But I disagree. It is NOT seen through the
atmosphere:
First, consider the brightening effect. Computer analysis is
shown which alleges that the brightening of the object while
below the airglow layer is analogous to the brightening of stars
setting behind the airglow layer. This allegedly implies that the
object, like the stars, is behind the airglow layer.
This argumentation is false because it posits the wrong causation
mechanism for brightening ("passage of the light through
atmosphere"). This should be obvious since at the airglow
altitude (40-60 miles) the atmosphere is already extremely thin
and the lapse rate (the drop in pressure per rise in altitude) is
already much reduced over the value at lower altitudes (that is,
crossing the "airglow boundary" does NOT significantly change the
atmospheric density the light ray is passing through). If density
WERE the true cause of brightening, the effect would markedly
peak at a lower altitude (as soon as the beam rose above total
obscuration), then drop rapidly as atmospheric density dropped,
and show NO NOTICEABLE CHANGE in dimunition rate as it crossed
the airglow layer because the density of traversed air wouldn't
change much either at that region.
The actual connection for the object's brightening is the
absolute brightness of the airglow layer in the background. The
object is brighter when it is against a bright background, just
as stars are brighter. This is not an effect of a light ray
transiting the airglow region and somehow being strengthened.
Instead, I believe it is an effect on the camera optics of the
summing, pixel by pixel, of all brightness within the field of
view. A bright object with a dark background will not throw as
many photons on the individual pixels of the camera as would a
bright object with a half-bright background. The camera's vidicon
system will respond to light in the background by brightening the
small point-source objects observed in that region, either lying
behind or crossing in front of that background. Repeat: crossing
in front of that airglow.
This is confirmed by other checks. Observers can note that other
drifting point-source objects, clearly starting well below the
horizon line, also brighten as they traverse the airglow region.
NOTE: Hoagland's argument that the dimming beyond the airglow
disproves NASA's contention that the object is nearby and sunlit,
since as it gradually rose "higher into the sunlight" it should
brighten, not dim, is false. Once in full sunlight, no further
brightening occurs. Sunrise only lasts as long as it takes for
the sun (0.5 degrees wide) to rise above the horizon, at the
orbital angular rate of 4 degrees per minute (that is, 360
degrees in a 90-minute orbit), which comes to just 7-8 seconds,
which anybody should have been able to figure out. Of course this
is different from ground rates, which depends for the sun's
angular motion on earth's rotation rate (4 minutes per degree, 16
times slower than spaceship orbital rate). This argument reveals
Hoagland's unfamiliarity with basic orbital flight conditions and
implications.
Notice that no mention is made by Hoagland of the clear absence
of expected refractive effects of being behind the atmosphere. As
is known by anybody who's watched sunset/moonset at a flat
horizon, the atmosphere creates significant distortion in the
bottom .2-.4 degrees of the image. The lowest layers demonstrate
a vertical compression of 2:1 or greater. This is also shown on
pictures of "moonset" from orbit. If the STS-48 object were
really travelling nearly parallel to the horizon but somewhere
behind the atmosphere, this would be visible by analyzing its
flight path. As it rose its line of travel would markedly change
as atmospheric refractive effects disappeared. This does not
happen, which strongly suggests that the object is NOT behind the
atmosphere.
Since the arguments for great range to the object all fail, the
conclusions based on angular motion converted to physical motion
also fail.
What is the "flare" in the camera that precedes the change in
motion of all the objects? I believe the flare in the lower left
camera FOV is an RCS jet firing, not per Hoagland an
electromagnetic pulse effect. There are several reasons: it does
not look like any known electromagnetic video interference; it
looks just like previously seen RCS flares; and the Hoagland
counterargument about an alleged need for pointing changing is
not valid.
First, while it is true that EMI can affect electrical equipment,
such pulses would not lie in any localized region of a television
screen but would blitz the whole image. Anybody whose TV has ever
been blitzed by lightning knows that the effect does not confine
itself to the corner nearest the lightning. Also, far more
sensitive electronic equipment aboard the shuttle, including
computers which were counting the pulses of individual cosmic
rays striking their circuits, were not affected by the event
(otherwise, the entire television transmission would have been
knocked out). So Hoagland's explanation is magical and
unrealistic.
Second, the optical appearance of RCS jet firings is well known
and familiar to experienced observers, and they look just like
the flash in question. These have been observed and videotaped on
every shuttle mission, from the crew cabin, from payload bay and
RMS cameras, and from cameras on nearby free-flying satellites,
and from ground optical tracking cameras as well.
Third, Hoagland's argument that the line of travel of stars down
to the horizon should have been kinked by the jet firing is plain
ignorant. During attitude hold coast periods, the shuttle
autopilot maintains a "deadband" of several degrees, slowly
drifting back and forth and, when the attitude exceeds the
deadband limit, a jet is pulsed to nudge (NOT "shove") the
spaceship back toward the center of the deadband. The angular
rates induced by these 80-msec pulses are as follows:
ROLL .07 deg/sec
PITCH .10 deg/sec
YAW .05 deg/sec
Note that the star motion would have changed direction ONLY IF
the orbiter's pointing attitude was shifted to the right or left.
If shifted up or down, only a slight change in star motion rate
would occur (this appears to be the way the jet plume is actually
directed) but so would horizon motion, so it would have to
measured as absolute screen position. If shifted in or out, no
change at all would be observable. This is all based on pure
geometric considerations overlooked by Hoagland.
After ten seconds, even in the worst case (pitch motion inducing
pure crossways angular motion), the star track would only have
diverged a single degree from the former straight line. This is
visually undetectable on the images shown by Hoagland.
So the fact that he sees no change in the star motion tracks does
not disprove that the pulse was an RCS jet.
Video Encryption: Hoagland alleges that since STS-48, all
external STS video has been encrypted and will be viewed only
after NASA review and approval. I have checked with a NASA Public
Affairs official, and have personally verified, that things (as
usual) are not quite what Richard Hoagland alleges. On STS-42,
the second flight after STS-48 (the STS-44 DoD mission went
between them), the International Microgravity Laboratory
(Spacelab) science group requested that medical video imagery
from the cardiological studies (sonogram images) be treated as
privileged medical information, as all previous audio
conversations with doctors had been. NASA discovered that having
to continuously reconfigure the White Sands TDRSS site and the
TDRSS satellites back and forth for encrypted video transmission
was a laborous process. Rather than spend all that time, it was
decided to go into encrypted mode continuously and decrypt the
raw video at NASA Goddard for immediate release over the "NASA
Select" circuit. Normally, when there was shuttle video, the
White Sands to Goddard raw video link had been unencrypted, and
the Goddard relay to "NASA Select" required no further
processing; but when medically-privileged video was to be
transmitted (a new innovation on STS-42, planned for years),
complex encryption processes had to be initiated on the shuttle,
on the TDRS satellites, at White Sands, and at Goddard. The
procedure for constant encryption was implemented to avoid the
cost of many switchovers between modes. But the NASA Select video
from Goddard was to continue to be decrypted except for the
medical transmissions, which were to be openly announced on the
audio feed, just not piped into a million homes and schools
nationwide. Since then, the NASA Select video (originating at
NASA Goddard, and containing other sources of video, too) has
continued to be transmitted as before, with the only change that
the White Sands to Goddard link (which viewers could previously
observe when it was active) is now encrypted. There is no hint
from air-to-ground conversations that anything other than the new
(and long scheduled) medical video imagery is being interrupted.
And although it is encrypted, the White Sands raw feed can be
observed to tell if there is a video signal or not on the feed,
so I am told.
Conclusion: The standing explanation, that the objects are near
the shuttle, are sunlit, and are affected by the plume field of
an RCS jet firing, remains valid.
P.S. Hoagland made a number of other factually erroneous comments
about live planetary image transmissions. He says that all
previously NASA planetary probes transmitted live imagery.
Actually, only fly-by probes did that, particularly the fly-by
probes which had slow transmission rates which took many minutes
to build up each image. Probes orbiting other planets (Venus and
Mars, for example), do not (and I believe, never HAVE)
transmitted live imagery, since they are frequently occulted by
the planet's mass. Each orbit's imagery is stored and dumped over
a short portion of each orbit, and the imagery data is initially
decoded over the next hours and days. Live coverage of the actual
image transmission would usually be blank, but for a few minutes
every few hours would show images flipping across the screen at a
very fast rate, if there was enough computer power to decode them
in this "real time" speed. There is no practical reason why
computers have to be built so powerful to keep up with the high-
speed dump rate for a few minutes, then rest idle for the next
several hours. Outside of avoiding whines about censorship,
there's no reason to do so.
--
Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!
"Mystical explanations are considered deep. The truth is that
they are not even superficial."
- Friedrich Nietzsche (The Gay Science: 126)
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